{"id":1127,"date":"2026-05-24T09:44:13","date_gmt":"2026-05-24T07:44:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.sramkuvpisek.cz\/?p=1127"},"modified":"2026-05-24T09:50:00","modified_gmt":"2026-05-24T07:50:00","slug":"pred-piskem-extras-kdyz-ja-nevim-nebo-vim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.sramkuvpisek.cz\/index.php\/2026\/05\/24\/pred-piskem-extras-kdyz-ja-nevim-nebo-vim\/","title":{"rendered":"p\u0159ed P\u00edskem: EXTRAS: Kdy\u017e j\u00e1 nev\u00edm\u2026 nebo v\u00edm?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

rozhovor s Janou Jaro\u0161ovou p\u0159ed festivalem:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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Pro\u010d jste se rozhodli ud\u011blat zrovna tuto inscenaci?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Popravd\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, t\u00e9ma bylo vybran\u00e9\u00a0 jen kv\u016fli tomu, \u017ee jsme pot\u0159ebovali naj\u00edt n\u011bco, co by bylo pro d\u00edvky s Downov\u00fdm syndromem okam\u017eit\u011b dob\u0159e pochopiteln\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n

A to\u00a0kontrast mezi AI a \u010dlov\u011bkem nab\u00edz\u00ed. Nav\u00edc jednotliv\u00e9 obrazy mohou b\u00fdt kr\u00e1tk\u00e9. Na\u0161e here\u010dky toti\u017e\u00a0 pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed stru\u010dnost ve vyjad\u0159ov\u00e1n\u00ed, d\u011bj v na\u0161ich hr\u00e1ch se zat\u00edm neu\u010dily nikdy uchopit vcelku, ale hry v\u017edy \u201cdor\u016fstaly \u201c tak, jak n\u00e1s postupn\u011b napadaly dal\u0161\u00ed my\u0161lenky.\u00a0Kontrast mezi m\u00e1mou a AI p\u0159\u00edmo vyb\u00edz\u00ed k legra\u010dn\u00edm odpov\u011bd\u00edm. Zar\u00e1\u017eej\u00edc\u00ed je, \u017ee lid\u00e9 se moc nesm\u011bj\u00ed, zd\u00e1 se, \u017ee t\u00e9ma je natolik v\u00e1\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee si n\u011bjak dop\u0159edu zakazuj\u00ed se sm\u00e1t. P\u0159itom my se na zkou\u0161k\u00e1ch sm\u011bjeme po\u0159\u00e1d. Asi to bude t\u00edm, \u017ee\u00a0lid\u00e9 s Downov\u00fdm syndromem v\u00e1\u017enost situace v\u0161udyp\u0159\u00edtomn\u00e9 AI ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed, ale soust\u0159ed\u00ed se jen na repliky, kter\u00e9 legra\u010dn\u00ed jsou. Tedy v\u011bt\u0161inou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Co pro n\u00e1s ale d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je, a to jsme jim cht\u011bly sd\u011blit, je skute\u010dnost, \u017ee lidstvo se ocitlo v situaci, kdy si brzy nebude v\u011bd\u011bt rady. Jsme v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00ed maminky, tak\u017ee c\u00edt\u00edme, \u017ee je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9\u00a0 p\u0159ipomenut\u00a0lidem mo\u017enost Bo\u017e\u00ed pomoci – za podm\u00ednky, \u017ee\u00a0o ni lid\u00e9 stoj\u00ed. Proto jsme holky ve h\u0159e nap\u0159ed nechaly zatan\u010dit\u00a0 stvo\u0159en\u00ed sv\u011bta, p\u0159ivedly jsme do hry\u00a0postavu \u010casu, kter\u00fd o Bohu lidem \u0159ekne, aby se k N\u011bmu v \u00fapln\u00e9m z\u00e1v\u011bru\u00a0postavy maminky i d\u00edt\u011bte mohly obr\u00e1tit o pomoc, proto\u017ee budoucnost je najasn\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem tvo\u0159\u00edte? \u2013 sp\u00ed\u0161 re\u017eis\u00e9rsky nebo sp\u00ed\u0161 kolektivn\u011b?; sp\u00ed\u0161 podle pevn\u00e9ho sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159e nebo sp\u00ed\u0161 voln\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Na za\u010d\u00e1tku je v\u017edy sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159. B\u011bhem zkou\u0161en\u00ed ale v\u011bt\u0161inou zji\u0161\u0165ujeme, \u017ee d\u011bv\u010data n\u011bkter\u00e1 slova (nebo sp\u00ed\u0161e slovn\u00ed obraty) nejsou schopny vyslovit nebo pochopit.\u00a0Dokonce se st\u00e1valo, \u017ee n\u011bkter\u00fdm chyb\u011bla abstraktn\u00ed p\u0159edstava. Vznikaly tak velmi komick\u00e9 situace, kter\u00fdch jsme pak vyu\u017eily a schv\u00e1ln\u011b je napasovaly do hry. Obvykle ale hled\u00e1me jin\u00e9 stavby v\u011bt, ne\u017e jsou ve sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159i. Tak\u017ee my\u0161lenka z\u016fstane, ale slova se zjednodu\u0161uj a\u00a0v\u011bty zkracuj\u00ed nebo variuj\u00ed.\u00a0 B\u011bhem zkou\u0161ek musej\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159\u00edtomny v\u0161echny maminky, proto\u017ee se st\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee n\u011bkter\u00e1 z d\u00edvek m\u00e1 pocit, \u017ee nen\u00ed dost dobr\u00e1 a p\u0159estane hr\u00e1t, proto\u017ee si nev\u011b\u0159\u00ed. Nebo odm\u00edt\u00e1 sc\u00e9nu opakovat a uraz\u00ed se, proto\u017ee \u201c…to p\u0159eci \u0159ekla dob\u0159e\u201d. Pak mus\u00ed nastoupit maminka, kter\u00e1 jedin\u00e1 v\u00ed, jak celou situaci vy\u0159e\u0161it tak, aby zkou\u0161ka mohla pokra\u010dovat. D\u0159\u00edve jsme takov\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edhod m\u011bly hodn\u011b, zkou\u0161ky se protahovaly. Dnes, jak z\u00edsk\u00e1vaj\u00ed d\u00edvky v\u00edc zku\u0161enost\u00ed, to u\u017e\u00a0nen\u00ed tak \u010dast\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kdo je autorem sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159e\/vize, kdo inscenaci rozv\u00edj\u00ed, dod\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1, vybru\u0161uje?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Autorem je Jana Jaro\u0161ov\u00e1, rozv\u00edjen\u00ed v\u011bt\u0161inou nech\u00e1vaj\u00ed ostatn\u00ed na n\u00ed, ale velmi pot\u0159ebn\u00e9 jsou post\u0159ehy a n\u00e1zory v\u0161ech.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

U\u010dinili jste jako tv\u016frci n\u011bjak\u00fd zaj\u00edmav\u00fd objev nebo z\u00edskali zaj\u00edmavou zku\u0161enost?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ano. D\u011bv\u010data s Downov\u00fdm syndrome p\u0159ed\u010dily na\u0161e o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed.Na za\u010d\u00e1tku neum\u011bly vyslovovat, hr\u00e1ly strnule a jednotv\u00e1rn\u011b. Co je rozh\u00fdbalo ? Legrace na zkou\u0161k\u00e1ch a potlesk od na\u0161ich p\u0159\u00e1tel. D\u00edky tomu cht\u011bly ocen\u011bn\u00ed za\u017e\u00edvat znovu. A za\u010daly se sna\u017eit a postupn\u011b p\u0159ich\u00e1zej\u00ed i na to, \u017ee se mohou  vyj\u00e1d\u0159it i jinak, ne\u017e slovem. Ka\u017ed\u00fd posunek, ka\u017ed\u00e9 gesto a ka\u017ed\u00fd pohyb nav\u00edc je pro n\u011b obrovsk\u00fdm \u00fasp\u011bchem. To, co d\u011blaj\u00ed herci b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 populace p\u0159irozen\u011b, je pro na\u0161e d\u011bv\u010data ot\u00e1zkou dlouh\u00e9ho objevov\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kolikr\u00e1t jste inscenaci u\u017e hr\u00e1li a kolikr\u00e1t je\u0161t\u011b budete?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zat\u00edm se hr\u00e1la \u010dty\u0159ikr\u00e1t a budeme ji snad hr\u00e1t je\u0161t\u011b jednou nebo dvakr\u00e1t, pokud se potvrd\u00ed nab\u00eddka hran\u00ed na podzim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V jak\u00e9m prostoru inscenaci hrajete?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zkou\u0161\u00edme ve vzd\u011bl\u00e1vac\u00edm centru Ove\u010dka, o.p.s. v Bud\u011bjovic\u00edch. M\u00e1me centrum v historick\u00e9m dom\u011b, kde je i jeden prostor, kter\u00fd p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 divadlo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Co pova\u017eujete ve sv\u00e9 inscenaci za experiment?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Do hry jsou za\u0159azen\u00e9 dv\u011b sc\u00e9ny, kdy d\u011bv\u010data nev\u011bd\u00ed, co je \u010dek\u00e1 a na jevi\u0161ti opravdu improvizuj\u00ed. Jde o sc\u00e9nu s j\u00eddlem, kdy nev\u011bd\u00ed, zda ve stolku bude p\u0159ipraven\u00e9 j\u00eddlo nebo ne. A pokud j\u00eddlo v \u0161ubleti ve stole najdou, je poka\u017ed\u00e9 jin\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dal\u0161\u00ed sc\u00e9na je s fotografiemi: poka\u017ed\u00e9 vlo\u017e\u00edme do\u00a0 stolku\u00a0jin\u00e9 fotografie a here\u010dka, kter\u00e1 hraje maminku, vym\u00fd\u0161l\u00ed s here\u010dkou d\u00edt\u011bte poka\u017ed\u00e9 nov\u00fd koment\u00e1\u0159 i jm\u00e9na lid\u00ed na obr\u00e1zku. Je to legra\u010dn\u00ed. Zuzka, kter\u00e1 hraje maminku, miluje Shakespeara, a proto se dost \u010dasto stane, \u017ee zahl\u00e1s\u00ed do publika: \u2026Tehle chlape\u010dek, to je Merkucio\u2026\u2026 a jeho d\u011bda je Tybalt\u2026.. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee lidem to mus\u00ed b\u00fdt divn\u00e9. My se ale poka\u017ed\u00e9 v\u00fdborn\u011b bav\u00edme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak je v\u00e1\u0161 soubor organizov\u00e1n?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sch\u00e1z\u00edme se jednou t\u00fddn\u011b. T\u0159i mamky a t\u0159i d\u011bv\u010data. Je\u0161t\u011b na podzim\u00a0byla d\u011bv\u010data\u00a0\u010dty\u0159i: Ane\u017eka, Eli\u0161ka, Zuzka a Terezka. Terezka je ale dlouhodob\u011b nemocn\u00e1. V t\u00e9to h\u0159e m\u011bla roli \u010casu. Bohu\u017eel nyn\u00ed nehraje, tak\u017ee roli \u010casu jsme musely vy\u0159e\u0161it mikrofonem\u00a0a hlasem zven\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak\u00fd m\u00e1te vztah k m\u011bstu P\u00edsku?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u00edsek je kouzeln\u00e9 m\u00edsto. My maminky samoz\u0159ejm\u011b vn\u00edm\u00e1me kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 m\u011bsto, \u00fa\u017easn\u00e9 lidi v divadle, kte\u0159\u00ed n\u00e1s neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b p\u0159ijali. Ale ob\u00e1v\u00e1m se, \u017ee na\u0161e holky si nejv\u00edc pamatuj\u00ed hlavn\u011b m\u00edstn\u00ed cukr\u00e1rnu a restauraci, kde se v\u00fdborn\u011b najedly. Ale abych jim nek\u0159ivdila: minule v\u00fdslovn\u011b \u0159\u00edkaly, \u017ee \u201ctohle divadlo je p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9 a tady se neboj\u00edme\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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